Jana Kramer has recognized as a Swiftie at instances, however her 8-year-old daughter, Jolie, isn’t on the Taylor Swift bandwagon.

“Jolie is just not a fan, which is so attention-grabbing, as a result of I didn’t know this,” Kramer, 40, stated in the course of the Sunday, April 28, episode of her “Whine Down” podcast.

Kramer, who’s a singer herself, recalled Jolie being at a party and asking, “Mother, is it OK that I don’t like Taylor Swift?”

The actress remembered pondering it was “loopy” that the subject by no means got here up and that she hadn’t advised Jolie it’s high quality to have your personal favorites.

“I used to be like, ‘Honey, 1,000 % you may like whoever you want,’” Kramer continued. She reminded Jolie that “simply because she’s tremendous well-known and everybody loves her doesn’t imply you must love her too.”

Kramer, who shares Jolie and son Jace, 5, with ex-husband Mark Caussin, confessed that she felt the identical manner about The Beatles phenomenon. (Kramer can also be the mom of son Roman, whom she welcomed with fiancé Allan Russell in November 2023.)

“I didn’t like The Beatles as a result of everybody favored The Beatles. I at all times kinda go reverse,” Kramer advised her cohosts and listeners.

On the subject of Swift, 34, Kramer defined that she goes by phases. “Allan at all times makes enjoyable of me, he’s like, ‘You’re obsessive about Taylor Swift,’” she stated. “I do like a few of her songs. one hundred pc. I’m not going to disclaim that.”

Kramer admitted she wasn’t the most important fan of Swift’s newest The Tortured Poets Division double album, however her stage presence is simple.

“I feel she’s an insane entertainer. … She’s very calculated,” she stated of Swift, who dropped TTPD earlier this month. “I don’t love the brand new album. I kinda bought somewhat bored. I nonetheless respect her as an artist.”

The One Tree Hill alum pointed to Swift’s diss monitor about Kim Kardashian referred to as “thanK you aIMee” as certainly one of her least favorites.

“I simply assume she’s higher than that to have a dig track,” Kramer confessed, referring to Swift’s alleged lyrics about her previous feud with Kardashian, 43, which started with Kardashian backing her now ex-husband Kanye West after he publicly humiliated Swift.

A few of Swift’s lyrics evaluate Kardashian a.okay.a. “Aimee” to a highschool bully after the fact star sided with West, 46, and hinted that Swift was a snake. In her new track, Swift sings about somebody who “threatens to push me down the steps” and laughed at “every child step I’d take” to try to succeed.

“Taylor has moved on and isn’t trying again,” a supply completely advised Us Weekly earlier this month concerning the diss monitor. “The track is her closing phrase.”

Kardashian and Swift have been at odds since she allegedly launched an illegally recorded dialog between Swift and West. The recording was about West’s 2016 track “Well-known,” wherein he claims he made “that bitch well-known” after interrupting Swift’s MTV VMAs speech years prior.

Swift later accused Kardashian of not releasing the complete model of the telephone dialog, which Swift claimed proved she by no means signed off on West utilizing her identify or story in his monitor.

“Lots of people jumped on Kim’s bandwagon. I can solely think about how that affected Taylor,” Kramer stated on Sunday, noting that Swift bringing the drama to the floor felt pointless. “Now, I really feel like Taylor is larger of a star. Why carry it again up once more? You’ve lessened your energy somewhat bit. [That] is how I understand it.”

Kramer, in the meantime, admitted that many artists preserve going again to trauma to supply hit songs. “I wrote 1,000,000 dishonest songs,” she stated, referring to her ex-husband’s infidelity and their eventual divorce in 2021.